Today’s New York Times has a piece about hiphoprepublican, a haven for black conservatives, who not only suffer racial insults from other African-Americans but also get mistaken for protesters at GOP gatherings.

There are only “a few” black Republicans. You can like it. You can hate it. It is reality. Simple fact.

As usual you are arguing pure semantics trying to twist my words and/or Larry’s words to your own intent.

However, I can’t see anything wrong with your stated objective. You want the Republican Party to not be perceived as blatantly racist.

You seem to be stating a preference for colorblind.

Ok.  Good luck with that.

“Those gentlemen, who will be elected senators, will fix themselves in the federal town, and become citizens of that town more than of your state.“
—George Mason (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 14 June 1788)

Hooray for Bill! Common sense posts on target instead of rambling attempts at sophisticated prose and cleverness. Bring it on!

Wow, Biscuit, it always is impressive to see how wrong you can take anything I say.  First, I’m not “worked up”.  No sweat, no lather, no palpitations.  Yet.

Once again you engage in revisionist history of your own words.  You did not merely say “of course black Republicans exist.“  Your words:

“In truth, of course black Republicans exist. A few.“

A decidedly different tone - as in, “y’know, believe it or not, and I’m just as surprised as you are, but there actually are some black Republicans!  Only a few, of course!“

“That’s why it is incorrect to say black Republican was “unnatural” or that Larry or I implied such.“

Larry did more than imply - he plainly stated so:

“A black conservative is like a Jewish Nazi. Its never added-up in my mind; it raises suspicions.

*Note: I am not calling conservatives Nazis. Its simply the best analogy I could find showing how surreal something that unnatural is.“

Larry’s words, copied and pasted, no editing.

“why are YOU talking race”

Uh, gee, that should be obvious - I am responding to a post in which race was brought up and made an issue.

I’m just sick of the stereotypes that if you’re black, you obviously must be a Democratic voter, and if you’re Republican, you’re obviously racist and wouldn’t share a political party with black people.  What a worn-out old stereotype that is.

Bill,

You are getting yourself worked up over nothing, and attempting to use Larry and self as strawmen for your morality play. Culture war so often ends that way.

I distinctly said in my last two if not all three posts that “of course” black Republicans exist. There is no issue here, just an attempt to climb a moral hobbyhorse.

“are you implying that black people would be better of with the Democrats”

- No

“since black people need to depend on government to look after them and that’s what the Dems offer? 

- Whoa. Back that one up.

“I’m not talking about the modern-day neocon.  They are not true conservatives.“

- point taken

“It’s like saying there’s something wierd about a Japanese Democrat, or a Chinese West Virginian.“

- Have you ever seen a Chinese WVirginian ? It is weird but not in any stereotypical and/or negative way. That’s why it is incorrect to say black Republican was “unnatural” or that Larry or I implied such. Kooky, unusual, not unheard of, but nothing more.

“yet it’s the liberals and the Dems that always make an issue out of race.“

- Of course they do. Race is an issue that matters to black folk. It isn’t some intrinsic issue to Democrat philosophy or liberal thought. Race is increasingly becoming a marginal issue but it is a real issue all the same.

“It’s a philosophy; a world view; a mindset; which has nothing to do with race, really.“

- Then why are YOU talking race. It would be nice if all were colorblind but I don’t see that realistic.

Basically, the Democrats have their baggage of color and poverty that weigh them down the very same the Republicans have their baggage of fundamentalist evangelicals who weigh them down with a wide variety of social issues that were never associated in the past with “true” conservatism.

I applaud those black Republicans who are both fiscal and social conservatives and are working from within to clean up your party, but I see no difference between them and their brothers within the Democrat Party trying to clean them up as well.

Both parties carry some baggage.

You two are way off base here.  What is so “unnatural” or “surreal” or bizarre about a black person being Republican? 

Oh, I get it - you’ve bought into the race-baiting stereotype that the Republican party is made up of a bunch of racist, fat, old white men.

That old saw is so worn out it won’t cut anymore.  So you’ve never heard of Colin Powell, J.C. Watts, Condi Rice, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, and the National Black Republican Association?

Or are you implying that black people would be better of with the Democrats, since black people need to depend on government to look after them and that’s what the Dems offer? 

Larry, you clearly have no understand of what true conservatism is.  Race plays no part, no factor in what it means to be “conservative.“  And I’m not talking about the modern-day neocon.  They are not true conservatives. 

A lot of older black people are true conservatives.  It’s a philosophy; a world view; a mindset; which has nothing to do with race, really. 

To say that there’s something wierd about a “black conservative” is really an inane statement.  It’s non sequitur.  It’s like saying there’s something wierd about a Japanese Democrat, or a Chinese West Virginian.

It’s amazing to me how the conservatives and Republicans are always accused of and assumed to be racist, yet it’s the liberals and the Dems that always make an issue out of race. 

Just say, stereotypes often are perpetuated only by the stereotypers.

Thank you Larry.

You “saved the bacon” of the Bacon Biscuit from angry white man Simmertime.

I too was pointing out, in clumsy fashion, the air of Salvador Dali about it.

In truth, of course black Republicans exist. A few.

There was no harm or foul from Bart either. He was just offering us up a discussion topic so we could rant and rave and make borderline racist remarks and amuse ourselves.

The reason there is not more of them is that the GOP party has not delivered, same reason there is not more Democrats.

A black conservative is like a Jewish Nazi. Its never added-up in my mind; it raises suspicions.

*Note: I am not calling conservatives Nazis. Its simply the best analogy I could find showing how surreal something that unnatural is.

Mr. Murphy,

No, my post was not rambling. It was all on-topic, taking the rather lighthearted and whimsical theme and suggestion that black Republicans are suffering from some form or another of identity disorder. Confusion.

It was more creative writing than partisan mudslinging. I can not in all conscience blame you for not getting it.

Of course there are black Republicans, just as there are conservative white Democrats (Lieberman, before he was dissed by the party), and as Bob notes, plenty of whites hit by subprime mortgages and single parent welfare poverty.  Sure, it happens. So what.

I made merry of the whole thing because I’m sincerely uncertain Bart had a point to it either. He just wanted to taunt the circus bears and make us dance is my guess.

Thomas Sowell respected economist, but then so is Paul Krugman. They are both rank partisans. Walter Williams was the person who recently wrote that he thought overpopulation was good for the planet. If ever more idiotic words were written I know not who wrote them.

Of course Williams rank partisan zealot too. That explains it all.

Your comments to Bob about “slavery to the Democrats” is very koolaid. Unintentionally funny. Throw off the chains and pay taxes. That’s funny.

Sorry Bob, but the black community is monolithic. Never in US history has their been such a solid block of voters, if they vote. They remain enslaved to the DEMs and mired in poverty and ignorance.

It would be nice if they would wake-up and throw off the chains of DEM dominance. Maybe then they will stop living off of the US and pay taxes to help all of us out. Obama & Cronies do not want that to happen, it means they will lose power.

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