Media Matters must be profoundly grateful for Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, without whom they apparently would be hard-pressed to fill a site dedicated to rooting out conservative media bias.

Of course, that’s especially easy to do in Limbaugh’s case, since he has never pretended for a moment to be anything like an ostensibly objective news source. He relishes his role as a right-wing bomb thrower. (Cf., oh, the ostensibly objective ABC.)

The same goes for the Media Research Center, though! It would be in a HEAP of trouble without ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NYT, Newsweek, Time, the AP, . . .

HEY did you guys catch Cunningham last night (WRVA)? He was off the hook! No fan of Michael Jackson, that’s for sure…

Also, on WWCR (shortwave) there was some preacher-guy ranting that SC guv Mark Sanford was actually set-up & framed by the Israeli Massad.

Fair and balanced.

Ed,

So Bart’s support of gay marraige and global warming Playskool science don’t gain him any legitimacy among the left wing pretending to be centrist crowd?

I could run down a list as long as my arms where Bart has taken a position that runs counter to rigid conservative orthodoxy…in many cases taking positions he likely doesn’t agree with personally but is forced to support because to do otherwise would be hypocritical. I would imagine it’s because Bart follows a philosophy, not an ideology or political dogma and that while it might give momentary pleasure to play gotcha games, in the long run, self respect and credibility are far more important.

This is something all thinking men should strive for. That’s the problem with Americans today….especially among our self proclaimed intellectual and media class. Very little actual thinking. Very weak philisophical foundation. Too much pop culture foolishness, ideology and political dogma.

media matters is a good site.I have visited this web site many times.I found it really awesome.I do not think purpose of barticle is to bash liberal thoughts.

No, but I’ll check it out & read it. I didn’t see that when trolling through the online version of the paper.

But definitely—you cannot get anymore conservative than the Richmond VA area:

(1.) One can’t even build a lemonade stand in, say, Shockoe Bottom without people howling about how that lemonade stand will affect taxpayer money.

(2.) City buses into the counties? Just right across the line? The North Koreans stand a better chance.

Actually Bart is where central Virginia would like to think it is—enlightened conservatism! Which means still staunchly conservative but wanting to appear open to new ideas and other cultures.

BTW, did any read the Sunday article on NATION STATES? The writer is naive and has his head in the clouds.

Biscuit, nothing makes the question moot. As far as Kaine goes: (1.) He’s not from here, he’s from Minnesota, and (2.) he didn’t ride into office on the crest of a wave of support from Central Virginia. He got into office the same all governors do now—he won Fairfax County.

Now the Times-Dispatch, as a whole, has turned-off thousands of Central Virginians. To the point of hatred. Since their campaign of trying to appear as the gentle, thoughtful, moderate ‘voice of reason’ for Central Virginia.

People don’t want that crap around here. But anyway Hinkle is major part of this ‘new’ softie image—which is why they kept him aboard during their genocide of layoffs (which were often disguised publicly as “retirements” etc.)

Larry,

You just agreed with my definition of conservatives as thinking it’s impossible to be “too” conservative.

I don’t know what the pundits say. The demographics might bear you out. Maybe this is an extreme rightist area. (but how does that explain people like Kaine)

In order for Bart to be center-right it would help if he had a few opinions that were center instead of right.

I have no idea what the ideal political philosophy would be for this area; not sure there is one, which makes the entire question moot.

Biscuit, actually I was remarking more about U’nos perception of Central Virginians (he claims they’re “center right”). I think Central Virginia is fiercely ultra-conservative, and more-so than many other parts of the nation. So what I was trying to do was dispute U’nos assertion that Bart Hinkle is “just right” for Central Virginia readers.

I think he’s pretty left of most readers in this area. That’s all I’m saying.

In order for this conversation to be honest you have to say it like this, “That Bart is too blankety-blank liberal to be conservative.“

REal conservatives wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat worried that they are “center-right”, kind of like being informed you were just neutered with a plastic spoon.

It’s impossible to be too conservative, just too centrist, too comprimised, too untrue to your values, too mild mannered and harmless.

Calling Bart Centrist however was very conservative, so Uno, even Larry, you guys got your ticket punched.  Way to go.

Jon Stewart had the best line about Gov.Sanford. “Just one more politician with conservative values but a liberal xxxxx”.

Frankly U’no, Bart Hinkle is fairly much to the left of Central Virginia. Ross McKenzie was much more in tune with the average Richmond-area person. This is my opinion. I’m not trying to be contentious.

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